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Dirk Stratton's avatar

Given the great comments already posted, this seems somewhat trivial, but I just wanted to note that I listened to your post with a certain amount of incredulous astonishment. Wait, I kept thinking, THAT'S Chuck??? I know it's been over 20 years since I've spoken to you in person, but still your voice just seemed so . . . unfamiliar. And then, to make things "worse," I couldn't really figure out WHY I didn't think it sounded like what I (apparently) thought you should sound like. That is, I have no response to what I suspect would be your immediate query, "Well, what did you think I should sound like?" So bizarre. Still, great post and pass along my congratulations to your daughters.

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Joshua Doležal's avatar

Congrats to your daughters! That's a big accomplishment.

A couple of sincere questions. I understand the sentiment here: "If necessary, I am prepared to take out second mortgages on my organs to send my little ones to college." But I'm increasingly skeptical of the value proposition that college offers. I'll do everything I can to send my kids to college, too, but I wonder if that's really the best way to improve their lives now? One of my brothers just finished law school in New Orleans. He is working for $25/hr. Maybe he needs to be more aggressive, learn how to negotiate better, but there's a pretty big cadre of lawyers like him who are not unlike the adjunct class. By contrast, his cousins, who never left Montana, are debt free and have good jobs building log homes. One of my cousins, a former Marine, slowly worked his way up from logging and roughnecking to earn certifications as a welding inspector. He now earns north of $300K -- about the same as the president at my former employer.

Money isn't the only measure of success, but the push to send kids to college has always been more about improving their financial prospects. Statistics show that on average college graduates earn more than those who don't finish high school, but those numbers leave out key nuances. For first-gen students like me (and, I think, like you), the degree is just one factor -- you also have to know how to leverage it. If your native language is working class, there is an extra set of invisible barriers to overcome. I'm always annoyed by this on LinkedIn, where people (usually helpfully) try to explain how to translate obscure academic language into what seems like equally obscure industry language. Translating one secret handshake into another. Sometimes that includes changing the name of your job title from "postdoctoral researcher" (or whatever it was) to some industry-friendly term like "project lead." To a kid from a certain background, that looks like sleight of hand -- not the kind of thing you were taught to do when you learned to give a firm handshake and look someone in the eye.

While I'm at it, I'll mention that there's no "standard" anything in college anymore, at least not in the humanities areas that you describe. Those subject areas have been de-standardized already at least a couple of times -- once in the 80s and 90s, and again more recently. Decolonizing the university has played as key a role in undermining the institution as attacks from the far right or corporate takeovers have. There's no longer any guarantee that a college degree equips a young person for responsible citizenship. That was once the best argument for public education and for sending more young people to college. When I think about more young people choosing trades over B.A.s, I worry about reverting back to the 19th century and earlier, when a nuanced grasp of the Western and world traditions was a marker of privilege. But that ship has already sailed quietly. The tuition-strapped institutions are trying to chase industry trends while slashing their arts and humanities offerings. I don't know as much about what goes on at elite schools, but even there I don't think students get much that resembles the well-rounded education that was once valued everywhere. That is because dissertations in the humanities have been growing increasingly obscure. Course offerings, as a result, especially at the higher levels, are more boutique explorations of history and literature than attempts at a broad survey. Do I paint with too broad a brush? Perhaps. I'm still keen on sending my kids to college, but I think there are more options that I'd advise them to rule out.

And this says nothing of the problems that AP courses and their equivalents create for faculty trying to design and assess a developmental curriculum while students replace the introductory offerings with transfer credits and parachute into sophomore or junior-level offerings... As a parent, I understand celebrating achievement and whittling down the cost of tuition, but there is a transactional element to getting college credits "out of the way" in high school that reveals how much higher education has eroded as an institution.

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